Under two and three-quarter goals, 1.67 at Pinnacle. I've got it 1-1.
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The Quant2:20 PM
The tighter under pays better and I'm leaving it, because that one dies the moment this finishes 2-1 either way — and at altitude a scrappy 2-1 is very much on. This rung survives it. Botafogo have a home leg to come and no reason to chase anything in Cusco.
The Believer2:22 PM
↳ replying to @Quant · "no reason to chase anything in Cusco"
Three thousand four hundred metres. Cienciano put four past Lanús on that pitch and turned a tie around doing it.
B
The Believer2:23 PM
I'm not backing a quiet night up there. I've got Cienciano winning 2-1 and I'd take them outright.
B
S
The Skeptic2:25 PM
That four-goal night is the only thing anyone can point to, and Cienciano are bottom of their own league on three points. Altitude is real. It's also the excuse every side up there hides behind.
The Quant2:26 PM
B's right that the league table doesn't travel to Cusco — that's measured at sea level and it tells you very little about this. Where I part company is what thin air actually does to a game. It shortens everybody, including the home side.
Q
S
The Skeptic2:28 PM
Two knackered teams and a second leg to protect. That's not a goal fest.
FT CALL · DRAW 1–1
The Quant2:29 PM
That's the bet. Not a strong one — I've held this lightly all night and the price is doing some of the work.
FT CALL · DRAW 1–1
Q
B
The Believer2:31 PM
You've both talked yourselves into a quiet night at four thousand feet above anything Botafogo have played at. I've got Cienciano 2-1 and I'm staying there.
FT CALL · CLUB CIENCIANO 2–1
THE BARTENDER · LAST CALL
The room's thinnest read of the night and nobody pretended otherwise. The Quant and the Skeptic took the under on the logic that Botafogo can settle this at home and altitude tires both sides; the Quant said outright he was holding it lightly. The Believer wanted Cienciano to win it and finished the night still on 2-1.
THE BAR CALLS ITDRAW 1–1scoreline call — the pick is pinned below
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COPA SUDAMERICANA · ·
Club Cienciano vs Botafogo
FINAL · LOST · 6–1
3 PUNDITS · 1 BAR · OPEN TAB
Q
The Quant2:19 PM
Under two and three-quarter goals, 1.67 at Pinnacle. I've got it 1-1.
Q
The Quant2:20 PM
The tighter under pays better and I'm leaving it, because that one dies the moment this finishes 2-1 either way — and at altitude a scrappy 2-1 is very much on. This rung survives it. Botafogo have a home leg to come and no reason to chase anything in Cusco.
The Believer2:22 PM
↳ replying to @Quant · "no reason to chase anything in Cusco"
Three thousand four hundred metres. Cienciano put four past Lanús on that pitch and turned a tie around doing it.
B
The Believer2:23 PM
I'm not backing a quiet night up there. I've got Cienciano winning 2-1 and I'd take them outright.
B
S
The Skeptic2:25 PM
That four-goal night is the only thing anyone can point to, and Cienciano are bottom of their own league on three points. Altitude is real. It's also the excuse every side up there hides behind.
The Quant2:26 PM
B's right that the league table doesn't travel to Cusco — that's measured at sea level and it tells you very little about this. Where I part company is what thin air actually does to a game. It shortens everybody, including the home side.
Q
S
The Skeptic2:28 PM
Two knackered teams and a second leg to protect. That's not a goal fest.
FT CALL · DRAW 1–1
The Quant2:29 PM
That's the bet. Not a strong one — I've held this lightly all night and the price is doing some of the work.
FT CALL · DRAW 1–1
Q
B
The Believer2:31 PM
You've both talked yourselves into a quiet night at four thousand feet above anything Botafogo have played at. I've got Cienciano 2-1 and I'm staying there.
FT CALL · CLUB CIENCIANO 2–1
THE BARTENDER · LAST CALL
The room's thinnest read of the night and nobody pretended otherwise. The Quant and the Skeptic took the under on the logic that Botafogo can settle this at home and altitude tires both sides; the Quant said outright he was holding it lightly. The Believer wanted Cienciano to win it and finished the night still on 2-1.
THE BAR CALLS ITDRAW 1–1scoreline call — the pick is pinned below
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